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  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    Edit:
    His own video of himself playing is shown in this report.  After I made the initial report, he took his video off public and it made the link stop working.  I was able to get the new link to his video and that is what you see  so there is no doubt he recorded himself first person BPM cheating extra rockets.

    If his video goes down because he tries to make excuses here is the backup I made here Back-Up CubanJew Video
     /Edit

    BPM cheating.

    He made this of himself when an admin was calling him out to try and prove he's clean.  Well...he didn't realize that even with the ammo count hidden, we can still count how many he fires. 

    0:58 - 1:00 in which he fires nine zuni's out of of a pod of eight.  The BPM is clearly visible in the first second when he fires an extra zuni (#3) out of the nine total.  To better see this, we can click the HD Gear in the bottom right of the video and slow it down to 0.5 or 0.25 and count with our eyes in that two seconds.  Then, to ensure continuity, play it back on HD normal and close our eyes to count by sound.  Again, nine rockets are fired by sight and sound confirming he's BPM cheating.


    This two matches in his own video are as follows:
    http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/873711986108143552/785273532/
    http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/870434976764022144/785273532/

  • MXT
    MXT
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    Member since 7 years ago

    Investigating!

    This thread has been re-opened by BF4DB

    Reason: Further Review Needed

  • NWG_Dredd
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    Member since 6 years ago

    I would like to chime in here.

    Hail, as you can clearly see, is on a vendetta against NWG. He was banned by myself and the other clan leader recently, for excessive hackusations that did not warrant bans. So much so, that he got a player named TwoSevenINF banned by BF4DB, just to have it turned over on an appeal. He was finally banned when he sent myself and the other clan leader a video of Cuban "hacking." Within 10 minutes, he sent a reply retracting his statement, because what he though was a snap, was just Cuban switching seats. This is clear cut on his vendetta against Cuban, and what he is willing to do to harass him. His obsession has reached new limits now that his toxic attitude is no longer welcome in our community. 

    If you do a quick google search, you will find we are not the only gaming community to remove him. He has a past history of actions like this with other communities. Now, onto the ban video.

    What he has provided, is absolutely circumstantial AT BEST. Cuban is a player with several thousand hours in the game. He has never so much as been banned for anything illegitimate in his time between BF4 and BF3. This video proves nothing. There are countless counters that could easily disprove the video, and cause doubt lowering the threshold below that of even reasonable suspicion.. One, client side lag. How do we know there wasn't a lag spike or some other sort of internet disruption during the time of this video? Bugged spectator mode. Spectator mode has always been known for being glitchy. We advise our admins not to ban on video alone, because of issues with the mode. 

    What I am getting at, is that one video alone, with several counters to it, should not be a deciding factor. Especially so when there are no other type of suspicious stats that coincide with it. I am asking you to look at the totality of the circumstances here. A player with a vendetta is attempting to cause as many headaches as possible, with one small piece of footage that is easily discredited. Please factor in everything I said while you continue your investigation. In my opinion, there is too little to justify a ban. Thank you in advance for your time.

  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    [Quote Dredd]  with one small piece of footage that is easily discredited. Please factor in everything I said while you continue your investigation. In my opinion, there is too little to justify a ban. Thank you in advance for your time. [/Quote Dredd]

    Please Dredd, how do you discredit someone recording THEMSELVES doing something that only a CHEAT can do?  You can't.  One video is all you need to nail someone, and he just did it too himself.

    NWG doesn't care if you cheat as long as it's only little things to keep an edge over legit players?

    There is NO possible way to fire more than eight rockets other than cheating.




  • NWG_Dredd
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    Member since 6 years ago

    If you read my post, It's stated there. I will not banter with you anymore Hail. Your harassing comments are not necessary. I will speak to members of BF4DB only. No need to mention my job here. This is solely about the ban, please keep it mature.

    Do me a favor, please leave your initial posts up. Your immaturity only proves my point more.

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    To rebut your other edit:

    You post a video of zuni rockets on the test range. This actually proves my point even more. The zunis fired in that video are in steady succession, one after the other, even spaced. In the video you post of Cuban, the first couple shots are rapid, followed by steady shots. There is no indication he got points for this "extra" shot. That's because it is easily disputed by client side lag and a bugged spectator system.


  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago
    And you think my maturaty should let Cuban off the hook for cheating?

    That's grand lol  I bet you make a great cop.

    Edit:
    Dredd...because it's NOT POSSIBLE to fire zuni's that fast!!!  There is a built in RESTRICTION on how fast they can be shot!!!

    That video I shot PROVES cuban is hacking even more so because one attempt I hold down the trigger (fastest rate of fire), and the other time I'm clicking the mouse like a mad man!!!!

    You JUST described Cuban's BPM hack that shoots EXTRA ROUNDS that cannot be POSSIBLY shot off!!!

    Holy crap keep defending the cheater.

    Last edit:
    Stop defending the cheat, "client side lag" does NOT give you EXTRA AMMO to fire!!!  You're describing a spectator bug which this is NOT spectator mode

    #2, How do you know his NINTH rocket did no damage????  He's shooting infantry, not at a vehicle that accumulates damage.

    #3, the notion you think it's "lag" when there is NO lag indicator at ALL, and that LAG does NOT GIVE YOU extra ammo!!!  Holy crap dredd, IF YOUR PC is lagging, the software on YOUR SIDE lets you shoot based on what is on your HARD DRIVE!!!!  Lag has NOTHING to do with how the CLIENT processes and SHOOTS.  NONE.

    Stone cold cheater caught BPM cheating.
  • NWG_Dredd
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    Member since 6 years ago

    That's your argument. Mine is a proving a flawed spectator system, or internet lag, which affects millions of people. Hell, I've even had the non-steady fire rate once or twice before. But there is no swaying you. The evidence is presented, and I'm sure BF4DB staff will make an objective decision. BPM cheating, are you making your own acronyms now? Maybe this will help sway the BF4DB staff in regards to what kind of person Hail can be:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1qMA9senNA&app=desktop

    My personal favorite (Hey pot, meet kettle): http://www.battlefieldbs.com/mobile/forum/viewthread/m/6533751/id/10534182-admin-abuse

    Hail Wrote: "Do I call out "hackers" a lot sure, do I call them out a bit to much...I'll give you that one, sure."

    Hell, you even had to ask here if there is a "BPM" cheat:

    http://bf4db.com/forum/thread/bpm-hack-effects-vehicles-89

    What a BPM cheat is per the thread: "So a LAV would shoot APFSDS, HE and canister all at once."

    Stop grasping for straws.




  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago
    What spectator system Dredd???

    He recorded that himself AS he was playing!!!!  Get a clue!!!  You hear Oddball in the background???  Cuban made this video in an attempt to prove he wasn't cheating, and failed.

    LOL Edit:
    Dredd...right click the video, click copy URL.  Go to URL in a FRESH browser.

    Who's youtube channel are you on?  What is the NAME Cuban gave HIS OWN GAMEPLAY video??

    You aren't a detective are you?  God I hope not.

    100% his video, I had nothing to do with it, I just found the dumb-asses mistake of recording his cheats.
  • NWG_Dredd
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    Member since 6 years ago

    Once again, fabrications as to why you were banned. Your maturity is amazing with the cop comments. Keep em coming. Let this message show why you were TRULY banned (Not for "exposing" Cuban as you say):

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  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    "your obsession with this matter"

    That is me knowing Cuban is a cheater, and Jimm told me he's "off limits" because he's a protected cheater in NWG.

    See above, if you are a detective, there are a lot of innocent people in jail, and a shit ton of criminals allowed to walk free.

    Edit:  Let me recap before I make the kids dinner

    1. It's cuban's OWN video he recorded of HIMSELF playing, follow the video URL to Cuban's OWN CHANNEL
    2. All I did was find his video he posted and I finally found indisputable evidence FROM HIS OWN PC he's BPM cheating
    3. "your obsession with this matter" is the reference going back two years when I first found your "hacker free" server that Cuban was in fact cheating, and subsequently being told by Nek AND Jimm that if I continue to point out that cuban is cheating, I will be banned.
    4. Cuban is a bloody arrogant cheater who just got caught under his own stupidity ammo cheating.
    5. If it was spectator mode, there would be the spectator UI at the top to browse the people playing.
    6. Spectator mode does NOT allow you to see when the person you're watching looks at the map.
    7. Do I need to go on?  It's Cuban's own bloody video of himself cheating.
  • NWG_Dredd
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    Member since 6 years ago

    I've wasted enough time with this thread and you for now. What's presented is presented. I'll respond back when BF4DB staff does. Thank you for your maturity in bringing up my profession, which has nothing to do with this. It is pretty clear what kind of person you are from the comments here, which only proves my case even more. I hope you find inner peace one day.

  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    I hope you become a honest cop one day.

  • NWG_theJiMMMM
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    Member since 6 years ago

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    you are mentally ill H4il. 

    I said what about Cuban? pure bullshit. prove it. total bullshit.  I have and will post every email exchanged between us regarding everything. this is part two to the screener dredd posted. the reason you were banned was because you once again accused someone falsely of hacking. in this case...Cuban...the time before TwoSevenINF...before that the dude who came into our teamspeak to "get you". but hey...here's the reason in clear print of you being banned.



  • NWG_theJiMMMM
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    Member since 6 years ago

    don't ever call me out on anything ahole. I was nice to you. tried to pull you back from keeping a running narrative in our teamspeak of every kill from anyone that you died from. it got on everyone's nerves dude. no one...I repeat NO ONE wanted you around. my bad...I tried to be nice and get you to fit into the community.

    it's not just our community. you've been removed from a few for your "god given right" to make bullshit accusations.

    dude...get help.


  • NWG_theJiMMMM
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    Member since 6 years ago

    what really makes me sick is that you know you are wrong. you know it's bullshit. you knew that when you did it to TwoSevenINF and you know it's a glitch with Cuban.

    you're only concern is your ego.

    pathetic.

  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    So says the liar.  "No one", as you say God.

    You weren't nice, you were two faced, I did keep it off of TS, the only people to see anything "serious" I said was yourself and Dredd for the last what, month or two?  That was our arrangement you couldn't be bothered to uphold.

    Bull shit?  Have you even watched the video?  That's not me spectating CJ, that's him filming himself real time.

    Perhaps everyone here that's not BF4DB should be taking their own advice.  The proof is in the pudding and you and Dredd are afraid to try it.

    Edit:
    2-7 is a fake soldier who fakes it to try to get attention.  He didn't know jack squat about the "supposed" unit he was in.  Have you ever talked to that idiot???  LOL He says the reason he's so good with the MG4 is because, "I used LMGs in real life when I was in the army, so I know how to use them in the game."

    LOL sorry guys, real life knowledge doesn't get you anywhere in this game to have an "edge" over other players other than maybe one or two things such as being patient or understanding bullet drop.  Understanding bullet drop exists is hardly related to knowing weapons IRL.  The bullet physics IRL doesn't even come close to comparing to the mickey mouse mechanics of BF4.

    How is that a "glitch with cuban"???  LOL He filmed HIMSELF doing that!

    Glitches are "repeatable", where's the proof his BPM hack is a glitch?  I guess my 2500 hours of playing I never noticed MY CLIENT gives me extra ammo to fire LOL

    Edit:
    You never said it in writing, you said it was in TS #1.  #2 that's what you were referencing when you wrote the message.  It's called context which that P.M. does not give any of.

  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    Whoops, I double posted, was not intended to do that as it violates policy.

    That is why things get "edited" ;)

  • NWG_theJiMMMM
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    Member since 6 years ago

    there wasn't anything serious you ass. the last guy before Cuban was TwoSevenINF and I plain and simply ignored you after that. 

    asshole



  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    Exactly, you guys don't mind cuban, or anyone cheating as long as "it's not serious" LOL.  As long as they only minimally cheat to get only a minor edge it's no big deal.  Great zero tolerance.

  • NWG_theJiMMMM
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    Member since 6 years ago

    no you moron...you were the only seriously issue. your paranoid delusional rants. like your video on TwwoSevenINF...there was nothing there. you disliked the guy and posted a false narrative to a video. 

    put the bottle down and get back on your meds.

    asshole


  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    LOL Yes, nothing there as he aims above a target and "magically" gets a kill.  Yes, NOT aiming at people and getting kills.  What a moron, that's exactly how the game works.  No, the wussies that don't have the balls to ban on spectator mode because of the propagation from cheaters "oh it was a glitch" is the issue. 

    Luckly Cuban can't argue that as the "moron" recorded himself playing, not spectated.

    Edit

    And for being an admin Jimm it's very clear you're overly sensitive to what the job entails, looks like you need the break buddy when you cry about the responsibilities.  As they say in the Army, time for a Change in Command.

  • h4iltotheking
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    Member since 7 years ago

    I have SS's too you both are liars.

    #1 Dredd CLEARLY told me to post whatever I found in the OPEN forums about people

    #2  I CLEARLY came to you, about Cuban, but still got banned anyway for listening to Dredd "the leader".

    #3  AFTER you banned me I came here, cuz at least these guys don't put up with cheaters.  (See pic at end).  Look at the dates moron.  All dates on THIS site are after you lying assholes stabbed me in the back for doing what you told me to do when it came to cheaters like Cuban.

    You want to see lying assholes, look in the mirror, I did EXACTLY what I was told to do and got banned for it because you can't handle being an admin defending cheater Cuban.

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  • muncho4
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    Member since 6 years ago

    I've duplicated the glitch shown in the video. Already posted in another thread but I'll post it here too.


  • hockeeyyy
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    Member since 7 years ago

    Clean!

    This player has been cleared by BF4DB

    Reason: No Proof Provided

    This thread is now closed

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